Woody Vasulka discusses his rejection of materiality and initial distaste for objects in a gallery, war machines as concentrated knowledge, constructing installations as a way to practice his philosophy, 'Theater of Hybrid Automata' and cinematic vectors, the celestial navigator and Jeffrey Shaw's 'Golden Calf', 'Table I' and 'Table III', complexity in installations, the saturation of a system and his desire to operate as an amateur rather than a "true artist".